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tickles4us 58M
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2/14/2020 7:27 pm

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So what does it take...


to convict a crooked president?

If the Democrats had obtained a video showing Tyrump handing a briefcase full of cash to Putin and Putin saying "it's about time you paid me and my people for winning your election for you" would that be enough?

If the "perfect phone call" had been recorded and it clearly had the spoken words from Tyrumps own lips saying "either you publicly announce an investigation of Biden and his or I will indefinitely hold this military aid that would keep the Russians at bay saving your countries soldiers lives." "oh and don't forget to tell everyone that you felt no pressure... or else.." Would that be enough?

I doubt even that level of evidence that would show such a clear and present danger to Americas security would have been enough to move the corrupt Republipigs to action against their Tyrant leader.

So the Republipigs have now given the Tyrant Tyrump the go ahead to do as he wants as there will be no repercussions to anything he so chooses to do from this point on. The corrupt Republipigs are going ahead with the persecution of the very people who have been trying to expose the corruption and bring the criminals and traitors to justice.

So now Tyrump is openly flaunting his control and influence over the Department of Justice. Meanwhile Barr, Tyrumps personally chosen partner in injustice and corruption of the DOJ comes on TV to say how he is finding it so hard to do his job because of Tyrumps tweeting. Would you believe that people like Barr prefer not to have the spot light shinning on them when they are doing their deeds. But of course he had actually chosen to see about reducing Stones sentence before Tyrump tweeted about it so publicly. Well I actually believe him... I'm sure that he and Tyrump had already discussed it prior to Tyrump having tweeted it out. One thing about lawyers... they have a way of lying without actually telling a lie if you know what I mean. If a lawyer is talking you have to be very carefully to consider what they didn't say as well as what they actually said.

Tyrump and the Republipigs are trying to tease the Democrats into action it seems by doing more atrocious violations of justice and decency. They know that if they succeed in baiting the Democrats into another impeachment of Tyrump they will be forcing the senators that are running for the presidency to come in off the campaign trail, to sit in the Senate while they play up lies and deceptions of how good and innocent Tyrump is, all while leaving the field open to the candidates with the worst chances of winning come November.

I'm just waiting to see how the establishment Democrats and the DNC chose to proceed as they have just as much to gain in their desires about the outcome of this election by pulling the Senators out away from the campaign trail as do the Republicans. One thing is for certain if the DNC (establishment Democrats) starts to pull their dirty tricks again they will be dooming this election to a Tyrump win.

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tickles4us 58M
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2/15/2020 3:16 pm

    Quoting kzoopair:
    i disagree that if the DNC cheats they are no better than Republicans. Democrats are not trying to roll back a woman's reproductive rights. They are not trying to rob us of affordable healthcare. Democrats are inclusive of the disadvantaged and disenfranchised among us. I won't belabor the point. It will take a hell of a lot more than cheating to make us equal.But yes, I think the DNC will try to tip the scales toward a neoliberal or centrist. I don't think it's what Democratic voters want, but the party is under no obligation to allow us to choose their candidate. This feels wrong and it turns off voters, but it's the truth. That's why they created super delegates.

    Second, don't blame the prejudice of the DNC if you decide not to vote, or to vote third party. OK- you may not like their choices. But I challenge you to demonstrate that any candidate the Democrats may nominate is not better than ANY Republican. I dislike Mike Bloomberg and Tom Steyer. But I will choose either of them over any Republican you care to name. Against Trump it's no contest.

    Yes, I think other candidates would back a reversal of Citizens United. But we need both the House and the Senate to actually pass a law reversing it and that's the real problem. It helps to have a president supporting reversal but it's the legislative branch's job.
Agreed on your disagreement but that wasn't the kind of comparison I meant. I was only meaning the comparison as to the election issues though even that isn't fair as at least the Democrats aren't doing everything they can to suppress the votes of so many members of society. Certainly you don't have any argument from me about how much better the Democratic party is for the people even for the ignorant misguided Republicans who repeatedly vote against their own interests.

The votes the party will lose won't be the Democrats other than the ones who decide not to put in the effort to go vote either because of the disgust with the situation or through lack of concern thinking that the election will be a sure thing and that their vote isn't needed to win. The votes lost if the DNC plays dirty will be from the independents who think they are doing alright currently and are misguided by the propaganda. They will turn away in disgust of the preachers who have just prosecuted Tyrump for election tampering/interference then turn around and do it themselves in an obvious attempt to select their chosen one.

But you know I will vote for anyone but Trump as long as it is a fair process. I voted for Clinton in the last election even though I didn't like her and didn't like the way the DNC cheated. But if the DNC plays there dirty tricks again then they will be the ones responsible if I chose not to vote this year and it is very likely that many independents will feel the same way. I'll tell you how a lot of people see this... the president is only temporary and will be gone in 4 to 8 years at the most (though I wouldn't put it past this pig to try and change that) they are disgusted with the constant bickering and nothing good getting done in the legislature and they rightfully blame both parties. I will say that in my opinion most of the blame lays with the Republicans as we well know what their agenda is but not all people are capable of seeing the whole picture.

Yes the Senate races are very important this year or any year where the majority of the Senators are Republican. Regardless of who wins the presidency it's who runs the Senate and the House that will be doing either the good or the bad in the next four years.

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kzoopair 68M/66F  
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2/15/2020 12:20 pm

    Quoting funiithesun58:
    WTF This is a sex site not any thing else ! Park this SHIT
The site approves all posts and has veto power over all posts as well. You commented on this post which demonstrates that you can see it and read it. Therefore the site passed it and approves it. Its very appearance here proves that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Or are you just having a temper tantrum? You know, it's no one's fault but your own that you can't get laid. Don't take it out on bloggers that you're ugly and stupid. That's all your own doing.

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kzoopair 68M/66F  
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2/15/2020 12:13 pm

    Quoting tickles4us:
    All very true. One of the big questions is will the DNC play fair? I don't know if it was just a rumor (created by someone looking to stir up trouble) or an actual fact that the DNC was thinking about changing the rules to allow the super delegates to cast their votes in the first round of voting at the convention but if that happens I can assure you it will have a negative impact on the outcome of the election in November on the Democratic side. Cheating would make the Democrats no better than the Republicans and as I said before this election depends on the independent voter especially if the turnout is not good. And the turnout is not looking good right now from the signs as the people are getting disgusted with the people in charge.

    One of the other big questions is why is the media constantly saying things like "the unelectable socialist Bernie Sanders." How much of that is from Tyrumps side who is clearly worried that Bernie is very electable and how much is from capitalists owners of the media who have very clear interests in turning people away from Bernie and how much is driven by the establishment/DNC trying their best to turn voters away from the candidate that they want to portray as being unable to win against Trump while they demand the assurance that Bernies supporters will vote blue no matter who the candidate is. Politics is a dirty game so I guess it's no wonder there are so many shifty crooked lying characters in the business.

    Do you think any of the candidates other than Bernie or Warren will actually do anything to over turn the citizens united fiasco?
i disagree that if the DNC cheats they are no better than Republicans. Democrats are not trying to roll back a woman's reproductive rights. They are not trying to rob us of affordable healthcare. Democrats are inclusive of the disadvantaged and disenfranchised among us. I won't belabor the point. It will take a hell of a lot more than cheating to make us equal.But yes, I think the DNC will try to tip the scales toward a neoliberal or centrist. I don't think it's what Democratic voters want, but the party is under no obligation to allow us to choose their candidate. This feels wrong and it turns off voters, but it's the truth. That's why they created super delegates.

Second, don't blame the prejudice of the DNC if you decide not to vote, or to vote third party. OK- you may not like their choices. But I challenge you to demonstrate that any candidate the Democrats may nominate is not better than ANY Republican. I dislike Mike Bloomberg and Tom Steyer. But I will choose either of them over any Republican you care to name. Against Trump it's no contest.

Yes, I think other candidates would back a reversal of Citizens United. But we need both the House and the Senate to actually pass a law reversing it and that's the real problem. It helps to have a president supporting reversal but it's the legislative branch's job.

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tickles4us 58M
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2/15/2020 9:08 am

Bernie is better... USA, USA, USA...

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tickles4us 58M
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2/15/2020 8:57 am

    Quoting kzoopair:
    I think there are a number of ways we lose. We can lose through another round of intense voter suppression and outright cheating. By outright cheating I mean "lost" ballots, ballots "spoiled" by precincts under mysterious circumstances (happened in Michigan). We can lose through cheating by hacking of voting machines. We can lose by Democratic voters staying home in protest that their favorite candidate didn't win. We can accomplish this last one by vicious partisan infighting and internecine warfare within the Democratic party. That kind of moronic horseshit doomed us in 2016. People voted third party or didn't vote at all. Many voted every line on the ballot EXCEPT for president. People who want to be done with Trump and the Republican party have to make a vow to get off their asses and vote for the Democratic candidate even if they don't particularly like her. Any other action hands the election to Trump and a craven, corrupt Republican party.
All very true. One of the big questions is will the DNC play fair? I don't know if it was just a rumor (created by someone looking to stir up trouble) or an actual fact that the DNC was thinking about changing the rules to allow the super delegates to cast their votes in the first round of voting at the convention but if that happens I can assure you it will have a negative impact on the outcome of the election in November on the Democratic side. Cheating would make the Democrats no better than the Republicans and as I said before this election depends on the independent voter especially if the turnout is not good. And the turnout is not looking good right now from the signs as the people are getting disgusted with the people in charge.

One of the other big questions is why is the media constantly saying things like "the unelectable socialist Bernie Sanders." How much of that is from Tyrumps side who is clearly worried that Bernie is very electable and how much is from capitalists owners of the media who have very clear interests in turning people away from Bernie and how much is driven by the establishment/DNC trying their best to turn voters away from the candidate that they want to portray as being unable to win against Trump while they demand the assurance that Bernies supporters will vote blue no matter who the candidate is. Politics is a dirty game so I guess it's no wonder there are so many shifty crooked lying characters in the business.

Do you think any of the candidates other than Bernie or Warren will actually do anything to over turn the citizens united fiasco?

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tickles4us 58M
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2/15/2020 8:26 am

    Quoting JustLookn439:
    I didn't vote last election as I was convinced that both Republicans and Democrats are SO corrupt. Bernie should've been the nominee, but corruption sent Hillary as the nominee. Trump should easily have been the nominee on the Republican side but the RNC tried like hell to have ANYONE but Trump. While you may agree with the RNC, keep in mind that is going directly against the PEOPLE'S choice (for both DNC and RNC). This is proof that the process does not put the people's interests first.
    Now about TRUMP....turns out he is a big-mouthed, arrogant, egotistical person. BUT...he has also attempted to do all that he promised. The economy IMMEDIATELY improved with stocks soaring on the news of Trump's win. Businesses profited, which helps our 401ks etc. He is working on the immigration fiasco of previous administrations. He has alleviated SOME of the pain of ObamaCare.
    Actually, he has not been convicted of ANYTHING, which means he is presumed innocent (if you're American, that is). Don't kid yourself, the whole investigation was a Democratic attempt to remove him. Do you REALLY believe the Democrats were truthful, honest, and upright with the American people's best interests at heart? I don't believe there was anything but extortion, intimidation of witnesses, and total lies to get to Trump. The things they did were often VERY ILLEGAL themselves. The FBI was in the Democrats' pocket and openly admitted to wanting to carry out treason.
    So, I am concerned there are many out there that simply believe CNN
I don't blame you for sitting the last election out the corruption taking place was blatant and abundant on both sides. The abuse of power on the nomination process was criminal in nature and in action right through to the actual election and results there of.

But I have to disagree with you on Tyrump doing anything good for this country. The way things are done does make a difference and when the systems processes are abused and misused without due penalty the door is open for further abuse and it isn't going to always be in your favor and may well not be even now but you just aren't seeing the whole picture. The only reason the stock market jumped when Tyrump was elected was because the people who paid for the election and the twisting of the facts to make people believe Tyrump was working for them knew what was coming down the road in tax law changes that would give them huge financial benefits. The very wealthy and the corporations are the real beneficiaries of the tyrants election. The stock market gains in your 401k's can go up in smoke before you get a chance to cash in on them at the snap of ones fingers or the careless tweet of a moronic idiot. But don't be surprised if you find out after all is said and done that stock market trades are being made before tweets are released or policies announced and you can bet you aren't the one that benefits from those transactions. Just when and how do you think the massively exploding deficit is going to be addressed. That's the real price tag of the great stock market and it will come around to bite you and your children and grandchildren. The benefits, few that they were for the working class in those tax cuts are disappearing each year that goes by and they were a sorry trade for what the wealthy got. As for the Obama care issue and the cost there of you are right that many people were put in very difficult positions. It would have been much better to switch to a universal healthcare system long ago but the insurance and pharmacological industries paid for massive misleading and outright lies in advertising that blanketed the country and as though that wasn't enough they bought and paid for their politicians, mostly Republicans, to oppose the plans at any cost. Unfortunately the general public doesn't have the ability to use their common sense and look objectively at the facts and decide what is actually in their best interest but are rather easily swayed by the scare tactics used by the crooked paid for politicians and those industries who make massive profits by keeping the system as is. Obama care made massive improvements in the quality of the health care this country has available to them by changing the laws to prevent some of the crooked practices the health insurance industry has used and abused since they were first opened for business. Pre-existing conditions allowed the insurance industry to turn down coverage for anyone once they lost coverage for just about any reason. If you lost your job say because you were to sick to get to work then you coverage was terminated and from that point any pre-existing conditions would not be covered by a new policy when you went back to work. I wonder how many people have delayed treatment or died while waiting to get pre-approval from and insurance company only to get denied repeatedly. Then there is always the surprise when you get the bill about what didn't get covered and the months of appeals attempting to get the services paid for by the very company you were paying to cover the cost of health services only to be repeatedly denied. Then you find out later that it was the companies practice to always deny coverage until they were backed into a corner and made to look publicly criminal in their practices of denial of coverage. I could go on and on about the criminality of the health insurance business but you have a responsibility to inform yourself on these issues before you make decisions as to what is in your best interest. Now lets take a look at the pharmacological industry. What do you think about the companies that buy a patent to a drug that is critical to many peoples lives and was being sold at a reasonable price. Then after they acquire the company the price is adjusted to be several hundred times the old reasonable price? Yet nothing other than changing the labels on the drug to reflect the new ownership was done. Oh the companies are always stumbling over their tongues to claim all sorts of bullshit reasons as to why they had to raise the price in such an extorsionistic fashion but the truth is it was nothing but greed.

As to the Democrats investigations against Trump if you actually believe they are corrupt then you have been listening to the actual corrupt media. Just watching the impeachment hearings and seeing the obstruction and distraction practiced by the Republicans durring the process should be enough to tell you that the Republicans are corrupted and not working for your best interest but for their power gains to control the governments direction.

Yes the impeachment was a Democratic attempt to remove Trump because he clearly has been abusing his power to cheat yet again in the election process. If you don't believe that then explain the Republicans refusal to hear witnesses and new evidence and Trumps refusal (illegal by the way and an abuse of power) to let his staff people etc. Testfy. And for your information in case you are under the false impression that Trump wasn't allowed the opportunity to present his case during the impeachment hearing in the house, he refused to do so and the letters from his lawyers are a matter of fact.

You should move your information sources to those that are more reliable who present facts rather than opinions. The opinion sources you are clearly listening to are not restrained by factual information and often use out right lies that can be easily fact checked or just use common sense even to figure out what sounds to ridiculous to be true.

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MissCinders 54F
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2/15/2020 7:28 am

TRUMP 2020


funiithesun58 61M
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2/15/2020 6:08 am

WTF This is a sex site not any thing else ! Park this SHIT


tickles4us replies on 2/15/2020 6:27 am:
You can read or not read what ever you want so if you don't like it go away.

JustLookn439 54M
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2/15/2020 4:41 am

Here is what will get Trump re-elected: First and foremost, life for WORKING Americans is pretty good. Fuel prices are stable and low, stocks are high, taxes are lower, and jobs are more plentiful. If you care to give Obama credit, and it just happened to take 4 years for Obama's work to become manifest, then we should be already seeing the economic disaster of 4 years under Trump's policies--we don't.
Now couple that with a Democratic Party that is extreme, socialistic, and brazenly corrupt and it is easy to envision a re-elected Trump.
This is coming from someone who WAS a Democrat....now an independent.


JustLookn439 54M
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2/15/2020 4:35 am

I didn't vote last election as I was convinced that both Republicans and Democrats are SO corrupt. Bernie should've been the nominee, but corruption sent Hillary as the nominee. Trump should easily have been the nominee on the Republican side but the RNC tried like hell to have ANYONE but Trump. While you may agree with the RNC, keep in mind that is going directly against the PEOPLE'S choice (for both DNC and RNC). This is proof that the process does not put the people's interests first.
Now about TRUMP....turns out he is a big-mouthed, arrogant, egotistical person. BUT...he has also attempted to do all that he promised. The economy IMMEDIATELY improved with stocks soaring on the news of Trump's win. Businesses profited, which helps our 401ks etc. He is working on the immigration fiasco of previous administrations. He has alleviated SOME of the pain of ObamaCare.
Actually, he has not been convicted of ANYTHING, which means he is presumed innocent (if you're American, that is). Don't kid yourself, the whole investigation was a Democratic attempt to remove him. Do you REALLY believe the Democrats were truthful, honest, and upright with the American people's best interests at heart? I don't believe there was anything but extortion, intimidation of witnesses, and total lies to get to Trump. The things they did were often VERY ILLEGAL themselves. The FBI was in the Democrats' pocket and openly admitted to wanting to carry out treason.
So, I am concerned there are many out there that simply believe CNN


kzoopair 68M/66F  
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2/14/2020 8:06 pm

    Quoting tickles4us:
    I bet that if Barr doesn't get all of Tyrumps convicted cohorts released and or exonerated before the November elections that Tyrump will do so, as well as giving them full pardons and doing everything he can to clear their criminal history/convictions from the record after the election and before he gets replaced in January or reseated as the most corrupt president to every be re-elected.
I think you're right.

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kzoopair 68M/66F  
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2/14/2020 8:03 pm

I think there are a number of ways we lose. We can lose through another round of intense voter suppression and outright cheating. By outright cheating I mean "lost" ballots, ballots "spoiled" by precincts under mysterious circumstances (happened in Michigan). We can lose through cheating by hacking of voting machines. We can lose by Democratic voters staying home in protest that their favorite candidate didn't win. We can accomplish this last one by vicious partisan infighting and internecine warfare within the Democratic party. That kind of moronic horseshit doomed us in 2016. People voted third party or didn't vote at all. Many voted every line on the ballot EXCEPT for president. People who want to be done with Trump and the Republican party have to make a vow to get off their asses and vote for the Democratic candidate even if they don't particularly like her. Any other action hands the election to Trump and a craven, corrupt Republican party.

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tickles4us 58M
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2/14/2020 8:01 pm

I bet that if Barr doesn't get all of Tyrumps convicted cohorts released and or exonerated before the November elections that Tyrump will do so, as well as giving them full pardons and doing everything he can to clear their criminal history/convictions from the record after the election and before he gets replaced in January or reseated as the most corrupt president to every be re-elected.

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